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informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10590] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 01:08 Zum nächsten Beitrag gehen
Hello everybody,
I am a french guy and I am old 29 and I had 4 bad operations of 500 grafts. I am not very happy of my result. I don't speak netherland and it's difficult for me to understand your posts in this language. I would like to learn this language but for the moment I would like to have informations about doctor feriduni. In france we don't have good surgeons and so I have holden surgery doctor bisanga and doctor feriduni. For the first we have a lot of informations in france, but for doctor feriduni we haven't got patients accounts. I know this doctor is popular in germany, belgium and netherlands and I would like to have your opinions to know if he is a very good surgeon. I saw him 2 days ago and he seems good but the most important to take a decision is your opinion. Thank you very much for your help and see you

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10599 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10590] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 11:22 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
Hi feula,

u find informations about Dr.Feriduni on www.hairtransplantnetwork.ocm or on his site. Only one person of this board was by Dr.Feriduni, he mentioned that he is really pleased with him, but he did not show any pics .... Wink Exclamation

In Belgium u find other surgeons, too. I dont know if u want STrip or FUE, but there is also Dr.Devroye, Dr.Mwamba or Dr.Heitmann in Amsterdam.

My doc was Dr.Heitmann and i am really pleased ! U can search here in this forum under "suche" for him!

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10616 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10590] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 12:36 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
I would not go to Dr. Feriduni. No independent informations on him, no pictures, no reports, nothing! Look into Dr. Heitmann, Mwamba, Bisanga, maybe also Hattingen in Germany. But the very best surgeons you find in Canada and USA (H&W, Rahal, Armani, Feller and Cole).

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10618 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10616] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 12:44 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
It depends on your hairloss pattern, which doc is the best for u !

U can do an independant conceal by a Andreas Krämer, who offers free consultations and know the most docs in the world very good with all their strength and weakness. Perhaps thats an option, too, for u!
www.hairforlife.de
Phil is right, that 3/4 of the best surgeons are in USA/Canada, and for europeans the price of a ht is low cause of the high EURO

Good luck !



@morehair.

The job on Dr.Heitmann is very good ! When i was by Dr.Heitmann, i told him, that i want his hairstyle for me ... ! Do u know the hairloss pattern of Heitmann before the surgery ?

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10619 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10616] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 12:46 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
Philebos schrieb am Son, 06 Januar 2008 12:36

I would not go to Dr. Feriduni. No independent informations on him, no pictures, no reports, nothing! Look into Dr. Heitmann, Mwamba, Bisanga, maybe also Hattingen in Germany. But the very best surgeons you find in Canada and USA (H&W, Rahal, Armani, Feller and Cole).



Philebos, look at this link. Feriduni is a Coalition Surgeon.
Just like Feller, Rahal, H&W, enz.

http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/coalition-physicians.as p

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10621 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10619] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 12:51 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
To be Coalition member mean nothing ! Independent research is necassary, too. Do u know the details how u can be a member in that coalition ?

Many recommended surgeons are not in that coalition like Cole, Mwamba, Bisanga, Heitmann ....

I think it´s a question of money ...

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10632 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10623] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 13:30 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
What you want. I am not going to convince you.
What are the incompetent surgeons then in the Coalition according to you?

I see is this way; The surgeons in the Coalition are good and all of them can perform ultra refined Follicular unit hair transplantation.

http://www.hairlosslearningcenter.org/hair-loss-content/Trea tments/ultra-refined-transplants.asp

That doesn't mean that there are no other good hair surgeons, but I think that you are pretty safe if you choose one of them.





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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10642 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10590] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 13:58 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
feulacriniere, u better forget that guy. Why u need information about him? There are much better proofed docs than ferudini out there. Look at independent patient results and storys at hairlossforums, like hairlosstalk -or help.com. I won’t give u any advice, u know better ur wishes, and what u are awaiting from a doc. It seams u didn’t take time for any research, if u would, u‘d never ask for that doc. Also mate, u better take time for a good research. Good luck.



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icon10.gif   Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10645 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10590] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 14:07 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
I am sorry but, who the fuck are u morehair? Ur advice is nonsense, cause u are here nobody.. Write first 20 or more independent msg and give advice about ferudini.. Before u didn’t do that, u are a fake in our mind.

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10656 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10645] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 17:37 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
I am sorry, but do I have to listen to a guy who calls himself Moses.....?

No, now serious. I'm just a guy from Holland who had a hairtransplant by Heitmann (2000) and Feriduni. (2007)

The topicstarter send me a pb at www.haarweb.nl and asked for my opinion. I saw him ask here the same quastion.

I just give some information that are just facts. Is that a problem for you? I don't lie, I don't make up any things. Where are you affraid for?

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10664 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10662] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 18:55 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
ich kann mir nicht helfen, kaum veraschiedet sich der Obeservator und schon kommen massen von Patienten aus allen Landen und wollen sich nach diesen Ärzten erkunden, und stellen hier behauptung auf die eigentlich nur vom opersvator kommen können. Ich mein bitte, kein patient weiss doch das heitmann mit Ferduni zusammen gearbeitet oder Studiert hat. Kommt mir irgendwie komisch vor!!!

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10665 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10656] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 18:57 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
morehair schrieb am Son, 06 Januar 2008 17:37

I am sorry, but do I have to listen to a guy who calls himself Moses.....?



Yes, u have 2. What a stupid argument. I am calling me, what I want. My Nick is something special to me, maybe my real name in English or something else, who knows? You don’t say anything to the subtext of my msg.

By the way I followed ur advice and find u in haarweb.nl, u have to be “Dundee” (by the way, very nice nick). And it seems u are the victim of Hairobservator.
Laughing

Zitat:


I just give some information that are just facts. Is that a problem for you? I don't lie, I don't make up any things. Where are you affraid for?



It is ur facts, if they are true,
And no, it is not a problem for me, this webpage helped me, and should help other ones also. This why is my reaction allergic, if I see people in his first msg, that they are trying making a product good, what is really not proofed. That means with other words; the chance is very high in this case, u could be one of Ferudinis stuff or someone who is earning his money with him.

A lot of sellers or even docs are trying fishing possible patients for free. That is not my problem, but my problem is, if new members are getting confused because of this marketing concepts. We all as members of this page are responsible to keep this forum as an independent base of information.

Moses Cool


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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10669 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10665] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 19:12 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
That Moses thing was just a joke. Don't be too serious.

I am not Dundee at Haarweb, I am Morehair. Look at that site and you'll see that I have allmost 1500 posts there since April 2005.

Hairobservator was at Haarweb too, but he is already banned for life. Wink

I understand that you are suspicious, but i'm not promoting Feriduni, but the Coalition. The topicstarter can also go to Dr. Devroye. He is on that list too. It doesn't matter to me where he goes, all I do is give some information.

I already told here that there are more good Surgeons who are not Coalition Docs. But maybe it is for some people easier to choose.

I understand that in Germany a lot of people go to Andreas Kramer, but isn't that almost the same as that Coalition?


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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10672 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10590] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 19:27 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
I am not going to Krämer and co. I have my own brain to fill with information and choose it myself and paying docs less than the other ones. I hope it is true, what u are saying, and if it so, than u have to understand my reaction.

We have an eye on u, we are waiting seeing ur pics. So drop us an msg with ur pics, than it is over, what is the problem?

I don’t know about that Coalition, but looks like to me, it has Masonic structure. I am against promoters as well as Masonic structures. Now u should to be able link to my nick.

Hehehe
Cool


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40210 Düsseldorf

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Mobil: 0176-62242994

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10674 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10672] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 19:48 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
You have enough brains to choose the right Surgeon for you. I have too, but a lot of people don't. Or it just doesn't interest them.

In the past there are so many victems by wrong performed hairsurgery, that i think it is not so bad to have a membership of good, qualified and controlled Surgeons.

But you have a point that it must not be too overcommerced.

Ok, by the time I'll post my pictures (when i get them from the clinic), but that has nothing to do with what I'm telling here. Again, all I give is just information.


PS, don't think I'm a speaker in favour of Villnow, because at Haarweb Hairobservator and I were oponents.

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10676 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10669] :: So., 06 Januar 2008 19:52 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
Maybe, its the same ... !

I think Feriduni make a good work, but there are no patients in germany, who showed us some results instead of Heitmann patients for example.

We all want, that nobody goes to a butcher ! So it makes no sense to debatte about 2 or 3 docs who make all solid work. Its the personal decicision of each, where he will go.

I dont understand, why u dont show your process ?

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10722 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10642] :: Mo., 07 Januar 2008 14:45 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
Hello Moses, I would like to know why you think feriduni isn't a good surgeon? I had informations about him and they were good. If you have concretes exemples, don't hesitate. I made a lot of searches but I don't choose my surgeon and so I search, I search, ...
See you

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10728 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10722] :: Mo., 07 Januar 2008 16:00 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
feulacriniere schrieb am Mon, 07 Januar 2008 14:45

Hello Moses, I would like to know why you think feriduni isn't a good surgeon? I had informations about him and they were good. If you have concretes exemples, don't hesitate. I made a lot of searches but I don't choose my surgeon and so I search, I search, ...
See you


Hello mon Ami, Smile
I didn’t say he is a bad doc. Because I don’t know any documented work from him. He is no one for me, even bad or good. I just said, that u should forget him, because they are better well known docs out there, and their work is well documented.
I am not against him, but serious, I am sniffing here a marketing trail.
So that was my statement first, so than tell me; what u find out about him in ur researches?
What make him so interesting?
If you can answer these questions with yes, than maybe we should take attention, if not, why u should take a risk, and choosing him?
Do he make a dense packing at the hairline over 70-80 graft/qcm?
Do he making an invisible scar line by FUT, and or able put 2000 grafts or more per day?
What about the results after 12 months?
What about his aesthetics skills?
If the answers are positive, or regular answers like, what Rahal, Wong can do, he also can do the same? Than we have to ask, what about his prices?

If his prices better than Heitmann, Bisanga, etc., than I ll begin think about him.. But before we cant prove the answers above, why should I go to the doc, and take a risk, what I don’t need, because, they are well known docs out there.. sounds logic or not?

Cheers mate
Cool


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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10737 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10732] :: Mo., 07 Januar 2008 19:36 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
What do u mean ? History is history and i talked a lot with him during my surgery! What do u want to know ? We all know that he worked with Feriduni and for Villnow, when he begun ! But he was clever to do on his own, perhaps cause of different opinions in doing FUE ... ! Dont know anymore. Important is, that Heitmann is more present in this forum and germany than your doc Feriduni and nobody know him in this forum, cause there are no patients of him and when i look at other forums like hairsite oder hairlosshelp i found nothing ! Is he angry about that situation ? Is Feriduni making Liposuktion, too ? I like the docs more, who are practise only 1 thing.

Now i am sniffing marketing, too. Perhaps u re both the same person ?

Another thing is, that Dr.Feriduni wrote something here, a few month ago. That he will take more time to give some examples of his work here and perhaps answer questions... But there was only smoke after that post ! That´s all what we heard of him. Ah, there is our user Billo, he is talking only good about Feriduni, but never showed his result. U know what this meas ... Wink

nevertheless i think he is not a bad ht surgeon ...

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10744 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10737] :: Mo., 07 Januar 2008 20:53 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
He doesn't only work with him at the begin, but I can't give you
too much information because id I do, you think it is marketing.

But I think the reason why Heitmann is famous in Germany and Feriduni isn't is Andreas Kramer.

Because Heitmann do work with Andreas and Feriduni doesn't. (marketing?)

But to be honest I don't see many results of Heitmann either on the internet. The only one I see often is the result of you. (NW5)


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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10748 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10744] :: Mo., 07 Januar 2008 21:43 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
Really ? U see my result often ? Embarassed Smile

morehair,

what is your problem now ? You can give all information u know or u re not that person u want us to know ! Are u member of Feridunis stuff or himself ? U can pn me ...

That Heitmann is the better businessman and get Krämer in his boat and now Heitmann has the better marketing strategy ? The maine reason why Krämer take Heitmann in his boat, was the quality of his work and u will find many other stories in this board of Heitmann. Why didn´t Feriduni work with Krämer ?

Krämer is not a voodoo and can send all his clients to Heitmann. The people are not dump, who are asking for help. Krämers biggest Trump is his honesty ....

In my case, i wanted only informations about HT and he gave me 3 or 4 names of docs and some links to other forums! I voted for Dr.Heitmann, after seeing some results and i think u can imagine, that i did a lot of research ... Wink

I think its business and he did the right. I am lucky, cause i found Dr.Heitmann only with the help of Mr.Krämer !

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10753 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10748] :: Mo., 07 Januar 2008 22:06 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
I don't have a problem.

And I am not Feriduni or working for him. When I give too much information, you and others think it is marketing from my side.

So Ok, I only gave here some information about a surgeon who is just as good as Heitmann. If you compare prices then you'll see why Feriduni doesn't work with Andreas Kramer.

When I was searching a surgeon for my second ht, I considdered Heitmann too. Logical because the first time he did the job too and I was happy with the result.

But I researched a lot, and finally I came at Feridunis clinic.
(His clinic advertises at Haarweb)

I found out that Feriduni was the teacher of Heitmann, and he did the hairtransplant by Heitmann himself. I also found out that he worked with him from 2001 til 2004 in their own hairclinic.
Even the father of Heitmann had a hairtransplant by Feriduni. (His photos are on the website of Feriduni.)

I compared prices and Feriduni was much cheaper.
This is the reason why I choose Feriduni instead of Heitmann.

Then I came here at Alopezie, and it
wondered me that Feriduni isn't very known in Germany.


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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10758 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10753] :: Mo., 07 Januar 2008 22:26 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
Ah, very interesting. I had to pay 7500 Euro for 3600 Grafts and Ferdiduni will 7450 for 3500 Grafts ... not much cheaper ..., but the price is not all, u know. A little bit marketing do is as good. Is Heitmann advertising in haarweb.nl ,too ? Perhaps u can give me some links to patient of feriduni and heitmann. Perhaps per PN if u want ....

I think, Heitmann has Krämer for his marketing in germany, so he can concentrate more on his work, sounds good and real ... Smile

I hope u will show your pics and we will see what happens ! Perhaps our Billo make the first step and is the first patient of Feriduni who shows his result. I hope for it !

Good luck and happy growin ...

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10768 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10758] :: Di., 08 Januar 2008 03:35 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
Then you didn't pay much. Wink
If you look at his site he is much more expensive.

Price isn't everything, thats true.
Heitmann doesn't advertise at Haarweb.

Here are the foto's of the father from Heitmann.

http://www.hairdocs.info/seite_holland/patienten_eigenhaar_m /patient_galerie_maenner1_dr_heitmann.htm

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10771 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10761] :: Di., 08 Januar 2008 12:24 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
DaVinci schrieb am Mon, 07 Januar 2008 22:43

Zitat:

We have an eye on u


...echt nicht schlecht Moses!!!...den muß ich mir merken ! Very Happy



Yihaaa!!

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Re: informations about doctor feriduni please [Beitrag #10775 ist eine Antwort auf Beitrag #10590] :: Di., 08 Januar 2008 13:46 Zum vorherigen Beitrag gehenZum nächsten Beitrag gehen
weiterhin ...

We've got an eye on you.

Cool

PS: Ist nicht einfach 3 sprachig zu denken und kann keins davon fehlerfrei schreiben. Uh Oh

Moses Very Happy

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